Julia Rowan answers your management, leadership and team development questions I am terrified of making a mistake or being seen as stupid. So, I work very long hours, perfecting my tasks, rarely speaking at meetings and avoid taking any kind of risk. How can I feel confident about what I am doing? When clients tell me about a fear they have, such as making a mistake, I ask them when was the last time they made a mistake. Most clients can’t come up with any evidence at all to support their fear.   In fact, they mostly have evidence to contradict their fear, such as praise from organisational leadership.   Isn’t it interesting that our thoughts trump our lived experiences?   To overcome your fears, write down the evidence you have proving it’s legitimate as well as evidence that contradicts your fear.   What does looking at those lists change?  Here’s a mnemonic I love: FEAR – False Evidence Appearing Real.  The ‘false evidence’ is your thoughts and the ‘appearing real’ is the impact of those thoughts on your emotions, physical experience and behaviour.   It is often worth bringing issues of self-esteem and confidence to a therapist. It could be worthwhile to enquire about access to your organisation’s Employee Assistance Programme.   I contribute a lot at meetings but don’t make an impact.  I love my job; I am always well prepared and I’m a confident speaker – but I don’t seem to get my point across. Whether making a formal presentation or speaking at a meeting, I often advise clients that every word should work for its place.   When we know a lot about a subject, there can be a tendency to want to over-share that information – more than the audience needs – especially at a presentation.  In addition, extraverted types (who make sense of things by talking about them) often use 10 words where one would do, then they add another example, which reminds them of something that happened… You get the picture.   Whenever you have an important presentation, rehearse what you want to say out loud. It takes real discipline to pare your points back to the core and trust that you have said enough.   It’s important to hold onto this learned discipline at the Q&A by giving short answers. People can always ask for more information if they want it (whereas it is hard to say “that’s enough, thank you”). At meetings, I suggest that people preface what they want to say with a line such as, “I have three (two or one) main points” and then number the points as you make them.  This puts structure on what you want to say and helps you to be brief.   Make sure to reflect on your audience – how interested in the subject are they? How much do they already know? What is the objective of your presentation?  What part of your contribution are they more or less interested in? Tailor your answer to their needs.  Julia Rowan is Principal Consultant at Performance Matters Ltd, a leadership and team development consultancy. To send a question to Julia, email julia@performancematters.ie. 

As a hub for US tech firms, Ireland’s security is vulnerable but the Government is not yet prepared to think about ending Ireland’s neutrality despite the war in Ukraine, writes Judy Dempsey I was recently invited to meet a group of Irish TDs from across the political spectrum. There was a lot on the agenda, but Irish neutrality did not make the cut.  Some TDs said Russia’s war in Ukraine was not the right time to discuss the future of Ireland’s neutral stance. Others said the issue was taboo. For a democratic country anchored in the EU, which itself is becoming a defensive player because of the war in Ukraine, Irish neutrality is still a highly emotional and ideological issue.  Even though successive Irish governments have cherished this status over the years, they have not been prepared to pay for it. Only now is the defence budget being increased, having already been decimated.  Only now is the Government looking at the role of the Russian embassy in Dublin, whose diplomats know full well the strategic importance of Ireland.  Ireland is a hub for American IT, software and cyber security companies. It is an underwater gateway for cables packed with data that pass back and forth in the depths of the Atlantic Ocean.  What a treasure trove for intelligence officers. In short, Ireland’s security is vulnerable.  This is where security and neutrality come into play. The Irish Government and the public are not yet prepared to think about ending our neutrality despite the war that is being waged in Europe.  But look at Finland and Sweden – staunch defenders of their own neutrality. The Russian invasion of Ukraine persuaded them to join NATO because their neutrality, despite spending much on defence, was not enough to make them feel secure. Ireland may not have a sense of insecurity regardless of cyber-attacks on its health service and its geostrategic position as an IT hub, but here is a hypothetical question:  If Ireland were a member of NATO, would it support Ukraine being offered NATO membership when the US-led alliance meets on 11 and 12 July in the Lithuanian capital of Vilnius?  Ukraine’s President Volodymyr Zelensky has been pleading with NATO countries to give Ukraine the green light to join.  The United States is, for now, opposed to the idea. The Biden administration does not want a confrontation with Russia.  The US Government, along with several European countries, believes that offering Ukraine membership now would lead to more escalation because Russian President Vladimir Putin could simply claim that NATO wants to attack Russia. But it has been Russia that has been escalating: the indiscriminate bombing of infrastructure and civilian targets, rape, torture, preventing Ukrainian grain exports and abducting children. Several big cities and towns in Ukraine now lie in ruins. The contrary view is that, if Ukraine is not offered NATO membership at Vilnius now, Russia will prolong the war.  One need only look at what happened after the NATO Bucharest summit in 2008 when France and Germany vetoed NATO from offering Ukraine (and Georgia) the Membership Action Plan – a roadmap to join the alliance. Russia invaded Georgia in 2008, Ukraine in 2014 and again in 2022.  The consequences of a ‘no’ in Vilnius, or the refusal by a group of countries to offer concrete security guarantees will not only prolong the war, it will also give Putin the signal to interfere in more countries in the region, leading to more instability, more destruction and more refugees.    That is the choice facing NATO and neutral countries. Judy Dempsey is a Non-Resident Senior Fellow at Carnegie Europe and Editor-in-Chief of Strategic Europe

As Group Finance Director with Galgorm Collection, Tiarnán O’Neill has learned the value of constant reinvention and reinvestment in the competitive hospitality market In his role as Group Finance Director with Galgorm Collection, Tyrone-born Tiarnán O’Neill plays a leading role in the strategic direction of one of Northern Ireland’s most successful locally owned hospitality groups. Established in 1991 by brothers Nicholas and Paul Hill with the opening of Galgorm, the group has since expanded with the acquisition of two further hotel properties – The Rabbit Hotel & Retreat in Templepatrick and The Old Inn in Crawfordsburn – as well as Fratelli Restaurant and Parisien in Belfast. Even so, Galgorm, now a 380-acre spa and golf resort, remains the flagship property in the group. “We are very fortunate to have a loyal customer base that know Galgorm to be firmly focused on investment and innovation in their product offering. Our owners have invested heavily to establish Galgorm as an award-wining international and world-class tourism destination,” says O’Neill. “When they acquired the original Galgorm site on the River Maine back in 1991, it was a country house with 20 bedrooms. Over the last number of years, we have grown into an award-winning and world-class collection of hotels and restaurants, which will generate revenue circa £50 million this year.” Constant reinvestment Even as the dust settles on two recent acquisitions – The Rabbit Hotel & Retreat in Templepatrick, bought in 2019, and the historic Old Inn in Crawfordsburn, acquired in 2021 – The Galgorm Collection continues to look to the future with ambitious plans for the next five years.   “We’ve invested £20 million in The Rabbit Hotel & Retreat since the property was acquired and now it offers stylish accommodation, a luxury outdoor spa and lakeside walk, an onsite bar and restaurant and an events space for weddings and conferences,” says O’Neill.   “We were honoured to be recognised by the AA at their 2023 awards, with The Rabbit Hotel & Retreat being crowned Northern Ireland Hotel of the Year.  This is a fantastic endorsement of all the hard work that has gone into the extensive redevelopment.” The Galgorm Collection now plans to commence work on an additional 17 guestrooms at The Rabbit Hotel & Retreat at a cost of £2.5 million, following the opening of an exclusive £2.5 million resident-only outdoor Treetop Spa at The Old Inn. All 32 guestrooms at The Old Inn are also being upgraded as part of plans to revitalise and upgrade the historic destination.   “We’re confident that The Old Inn’s new-look offering will deliver a new chapter of growth for us and for Northern Ireland,” says O’Neill. Since 2010, £60 million has been invested into Galgorm and the first phase of a £30 million project to further expand and enhance the resort and spa facilities by 2027 has just been completed.   “Our guests’ appetite for new experiences, and our own desire to build on our reputation, means that the investment has got to continue,” says O’Neill. Early career Before joining Galgorm Collection, O’Neill had begun his career training as an Accounting Technician with PwC in Dungannon, his hometown. “After getting my A Levels, I actually went to Queen’s University Belfast first to study for a degree in economics and management,” he says. “I’d gone to the local grammar school and, if you got the grades there, you were expected to go to university, but it just didn’t suit me.” Instead, O’Neill decided to become an Accounting Technician, beginning his training with PwC and qualifying as a Chartered Accountant in 2012. “I just became a Fellow of Chartered Accountants Ireland last December and it was a proud moment for me, but I’m also very grateful that I started as an Accounting Technician, because I think that gave me some really valuable early-stage commercial experience,” he says. “Right at the very start of my time with PwC, I was looking after the accounts of sole traders, small partnerships, SMEs and a lot of farmers – it was non-audit accounting work, which gave me a firm grounding in debits and credits and the basics generally.  “My start was different to a lot of trainee Chartered Accountants who get sent into audit early on and don’t necessarily get experience in preparing a set of accounts. That’s stood me in good stead in the years since.” In all, O’Neill spent close to a decade with PwC. “After starting off as a technician, I then spent some time in personal tax before settling into the firm’s audit practice,” he says.  “Before I left, I was working with some quite big clients that were among the top 100 companies in Northern Ireland, local success stories in manufacturing, financial services, life science and biomedical – it was fantastic to get experience in such varied industries.   “Once qualified, I got to spend two to three months per year traveling to work in the likes of London, Edinburgh and Jersey in the Channel Islands, and New York.” A fresh challenge In 2017, O’Neill decided to leave behind the world of practice to take on a fresh challenge. “I wasn’t actively looking for a new opportunity, but I got a call one day asking if I would be interested in taking on the newly created role of Chief Operating Officer of the Diocese of Down and Connor,” he says. In this role, O’Neill was responsible for the financial management of the second largest diocese on the island of Ireland, after Dublin. “The Charity Commission for Northern Ireland had come into being, which brought new regulations and the requirement that some organisations, which had been run as charities up until then, be formally recognised as such,” he explains. “Working with the Diocese of Down and Connor, I went from being an audit manager to, overnight, being responsible for a £100 million-plus balance sheet, income of about £30 million and a 330-strong team.” The role involved streamlining operations and was “hugely enjoyable”, O’Neill says now. “It was about bringing the organisation back to its core, which meant divesting excess assets and services. O’Neill reported to a highly experienced Board of Trustees with high-profile members drawn from the legal, financial and other respected professions in Northern Ireland. “It was a tough board to be accountable to, but all of the members were very successful professionals in their own right. They were willing to give me their time, point me in the right direction and I learned a lot from all of them,” he says. Aged just 30 at the time he took on the role, O’Neill learned some valuable lessons in management and communication. “I found myself managing people who were quite a lot older than me in some cases. What I learned is that you have to find out what makes people tick and flex your style accordingly, so you can bring people with you rather than creating conflict.” The COVID-19 pandemic By mid-2019, O’Neill was once again ready for a new challenge, but just six months after joining Galgorm Collection, the pandemic took hold and Northern Ireland was plunged into the first of a series of lockdowns in March 2020. “We went from being a cash-rich business with a constant churn of coming in every day, to suddenly having nothing coming in overnight. We were lucky we had enough reserves to get us through,” he says. Galgorm Collection also implemented an employee assistance programme to support its nearly 1,000-strong team. “Ultimately, the pandemic made us more resilient, and we are extremely proud that we had no COVID-related redundancies throughout the entire pandemic,” says O’Neill. “We kept in contact with all of the team members. We had some employees who were used to working 40 to 60 hours a week in a very busy setting.  “All of a sudden, they were pulled out of this bustling work environment. We wanted to help them with the stresses of finding themselves isolated and locked down at home. The right balance The management team at Galgorm Collection adheres to a stringent corporate governance model to ensure that the right decisions are made, and the correct procedures followed at all times. “Any investment over a certain level has to be approved by the board, which meets bi-monthly. As long as the numbers stack up, we aim to make it work. We are not a highly leveraged business.  “The view is that, while we continue to invest and constantly enhance and add to our product offering, we also keep paying down any borrowings we have and stay lean, so we are in a position to grasp any opportunities that come along.” Galgorm Collection is always on the lookout for acquisitions that might fit, O’Neill says: “If it makes sense for us, we won’t turn down the right opportunity.”

Our Chartered Star 2023 winner Peter Gillen tells us about his work helping companies to reach their sustainability goals and gives us his take on sustainable finance  Peter Gillen, a sustainability manager in Grant Thornton’s Financial Services Advisory Department, was recently named Chartered Star 2023, an annual designation recognising outstanding work in support of the UN Sustainable Development Goals (SDGs).   Run in partnership with One Young World and Chartered Accountants Worldwide, the aim of the annual Chartered Star competition is to celebrate the difference-makers in the profession who are helping to combat the climate crisis by bringing real, positive change to their workplaces and communities.  A graduate of Trinity College Dublin, Gillen grew up in Dundrum and began his career training with PwC before his passion for sustainability led him to join the Sustainability Team at Grant Thornton in 2021. As Chartered Star 2023, Gillen will attend One Young World Summit, representing Chartered Accountants Ireland and Chartered Accountants Worldwide, in Belfast in October. Here, he tells Accountancy Ireland about his interest in sustainability and gives us his take on ongoing developments in sustainable finance globally. Tell us about your decision to become a Chartered Accountant? What attracted you to the profession? When I was younger, particularly in the lead-up to the CAO application process in sixth year, family and friends told me accountancy was one of those qualifications that would allow me to work in any sector anywhere in the world. This has come to pass in my career so far as I’ve had the opportunity to work in Europe and the US as well as here in Ireland. Travel, in general, is one of the best ways I have found in my own life to learn from others. That’s why attending One Young World Summit later this year is so exciting to me. There will be so many people from many different countries, and we will have the opportunity to learn from both our shared experiences and different perspectives. What is it that initially sparked your interest in sustainability? I’ve always had an interest in sustainability and was frustrated by the slow pace of progress in the last decade or so. During the pandemic, when everyone had more time to reflect, I reconsidered the direction of my career and decided I would try to merge my training in financial services with my passion for sustainability. It was really about finding ways to use my knowledge to bring about real change and help companies on their sustainability journey. Chartered Accountants in general are uniquely placed to be right at the heart of sustainability discussions, and to deliver concrete plans to transition to a greener economy. There isn’t a medium- to large-sized organisation in the world that doesn’t employ a Chartered Accountant and we are uniquely placed to support ESG efforts, because of our problem-solving and analytical skill sets, our ability to take a step back and see the bigger picture, and lastly being able to apply our learnings from financial reporting to the impending sustainability reporting requirements, which will be applicable to companies over the next few years. What do you see as the greatest sustainability-related threats and challenges of our time? In terms of threats, it’s the classic, “the wants of the few outweigh the needs of the many”. Those in power – the few – often have self-interest in mind and their actions can have a disproportionate impact on others – the many. Those who have the power to influence real change are sometimes reluctant to do so. A classic example here is the large oil companies, or sometimes political leaders. Chartered Accountants working in leadership positions in large corporations really do have an important role to play in leading the way and convincing their stakeholders to tackle the climate crisis, not just for the planet but also for their companies’ long-term viability. For me, it comes down to collaboration, both nationally and internationally. Humankind is the single greatest determinant of the fate of our planet. We have the power to save our planet from becoming an uninhabitable place.  The challenge is trying to unite a large group to focus on one shared goal. History has shown us how difficult this can be, but also that it is possible and that it is often at times of catastrophic crisis that we unite. One example is the European Union, which was born in the aftermath of World War II. I’m confident that this time we can unite before it’s too late and introduce sufficient measures to address the issue. What is your take on current progress on Ireland’s Climate Action Plan? I think we have made a lot of progress, but we still have a long, long way to go. There are challenges but there is also immense opportunity for a country like Ireland. In particular, we have a unique opportunity to harness our coastline for the purposes of renewable energy – wind and wave, for example – and become a net exporter of energy instead of relying on imported fossil fuel-based energy sources. Reaching Ireland’s climate targets isn’t just about government action, though. Every single person has a role to play. For example, we have all become too reliant on convenience and this mindset needs to change. We need to learn to repair the goods we have where we can, instead of automatically replacing them – thinking differently about the lifespan of the items we own and the waste we generate. Tell us about Grant Thornton’s sustainability team and your role in it. I am a sustainability manager within our Financial Services Advisory Department. Our team helps our clients navigate all of the new environmental, social and governance (ESG) rules and regulations the EU and other regulatory bodies are bringing out. The world has really woken up to the climate crisis, so our work is evolving on a daily basis as legislators and regulators work to promote the transition to a greener economy. We help our clients to understand these requirements and the roadmap they need to put in place to meet them. My biggest career goal is to continue to help companies to support the UN SDGs, primarily by supporting SDG 13 Climate Action, because, for me, climate change is, without a doubt, the biggest challenge of our time. What do you think of the progress made by the European Commission thus far in progressing the Corporate Sustainability Reporting Directive? I’m optimistic about the progress they have made so far. The European Financial Reporting Advisory Group (EFRAG), the European body drafting these standards, delivered their first set of draft standards to the European Commission last November. In order to ensure companies can implement these new standards, Mairead McGuinness, European Commissioner for Financial Stability, Financial Services and the Capital Markets Union, has asked EFRAG to prioritise efforts on capacity-building, basically providing the relevant companies with a support function to help them implement the standards. As a result, EFRAG is pausing the roll-out of sector-specific standards for now, which I can understand given the circumstances. It’s important that companies are given sufficient support so that they may implement the sector-agnostic standards appropriately before moving forward with the sector-specific standards. What does it mean to you to be named Chartered Star 2023? It was an honour to win it and something I wouldn’t have thought possible all those years ago when I started my career in accountancy. The list of past winners is so impressive. To be chosen this year is a privilege and I have a responsibility as Chartered Star 2023 to continue the high standard in everything I do. Ultimately, I hope to continue to work towards the achievement of the UN’s SDGs for many years to come both in my personal life and through my career.

With the concept of a four-day working week gaining traction, three members of Chartered Accountants Ireland give us their take on the potential pros and cons of working fewer hours as standard in the future Kerri O’Connell Principal  Obvio Tax Services The four-day work week is an idea whose time has come! We are all aware that we are living through an era of great societal change, with many people questioning their lifestyle, their desire to buy more ‘stuff’ and the impact all of this has on the natural world around us.  The arrival of more advanced Artificial Intelligence is also likely to have a huge impact on our working lives. From a business perspective, many sectors are struggling to recruit and retain staff. The pressure is on in many aspects of the service industry, including professional, medical, construction and hospitality, and we are all aware of shortages of certain foods, medicines, etc. An economic ‘growth at all costs’ model, and accelerating expectations of ‘always available’ goods and services, create pressures that are doing none of us any good. Neither is a working week model that requires people to work on all of the days during which the services they require are accessible. Consider that the five-day working week (itself only 100 years old) was a sea change from the previously standard six-day week and, at the time, regarded as a great upheaval. That change bedded in over time, just as a four-day working week will too. The opportunity for parents to spend more time with children, for people to have more time available for caring obligations, or volunteer for a social/charitable organisation, is not just a ‘nice to have’ – it would bring fundamental benefits to our society and our environment. Many of us feel very resistant to change and only make a change when we are forced or pressurised to do so. If the past three years have taught us anything, however, it is that we are all more adaptable than we think. Shaun McGlade Managing Director SMCG Ltd. There has recently been a major shift in the perception of a four-day working week, which is now starting to gain real traction as an exciting workplace policy.    At its core, the paradox of shortening working hours for no less pay is in stark contrast to the dominant burnout culture of past decades, where working more was viewed as working better. Pilot schemes trialling the effectiveness of the four-day working week have yielded positive results. The largest to date was carried out last year in the UK by 4 Day Week Global, in partnership with Autonomy, an independent research organisation, the University of Cambridge and Boston College. Sixty-one companies employing 2,900 people took part in the UK’s Four-Day Week Pilot between June and December 2022. More than 92 percent opted to continue with a four-day working week after the six-month study concluded. With many people having adapted to flexible working following the pandemic, and a greater focus on work-life balance, there is a growing need for businesses to think differently about how they operate. A four-day working week could give some a competitive edge in the war for talent.  One of the most interesting findings of The UK’s Four-Day Week Pilot was that, among the 61 participating companies, revenue remained broadly the same over the course of the six-month trial, rising by 1.4 percent on average, weighted by company size.  When compared with a similar period from previous years, participants reported an average 35 percent revenue rise. So, while some employers are sceptical about the potential benefits of a four-day working week, my view is that it holds numerous potential benefits. These benefits range from a competitive edge for employers in the employment market, to higher staff retention, improved well-being, lower absenteeism, less burnout and reduced childcare costs for employees. Teresa Campbell Partner FPM  Around the world, interest in the potential benefits of a four-day working week is on the rise as employers and employees look for ways to improve well-being, enhance organisational performance and reduce the adverse impact of working life on society and the environment.  It is these positive outcomes that could make the four-day work week popular among employers in the future, so I think it is likely that we will see it become increasingly common – including in SMEs and accountancy practices – provided it is introduced in ways that do not adversely affect customer/client service.  In our own organisation, all of our team are actively encouraged to think about how we structure each working day.  We want our people to enjoy a healthy work-life balance, develop their careers and contribute to society in a meaningful way. We support flexible working and have measures in place to ensure that this does not disrupt our client services.  We are largely laptop-led, with a ‘work anywhere, anytime’ culture. We hold monthly virtual team gatherings and have developed and implemented a hybrid and flexible working policy, which piloted a four-day working week. More than 10 percent of our team avail of this option and our people say that the flexibility has changed their quality of life.  This is in addition to the over 22 percent who are working part-time, with the remainder either finishing at 1pm on a Friday or working the standard working week.     Our strategy has enabled some team members to continue to work while travelling internationally, and has also facilitated higher levels of female participation in our leadership teams.    One of the main factors for the success of our flexible working policies is that they enhance job satisfaction and encourage autonomy. Our experience is that team members both appreciate flexible working and are themselves very willing to be flexible, stepping up where necessary to meet urgent client demands.  Overall, it is a two-way process with everyone committed to enhancing, rather than diluting, our clients’ experience. 

Ross O’Connor, CFO with aircraft leasing company Avolon, talks us through the career path that took him from practice to a high-flying career in international aviation Originally from Ballinrobe in County Mayo, Ross O’Connor studied at Trinity College Dublin and qualified as a Chartered Accountant while working with Deloitte in Ireland. After joining Avolon in 2011 as a business analyst, he rose through the ranks at the aircraft leasing company to become Chief Financial Officer. Here, O’Connor tells Accountancy Ireland about the factors that prompted his move from practice to industry and his experiences in a niche sector with international reach. Tell us about your career starting out and how and why you became a Chartered Accountant? I studied Management Science and Information Systems at Trinity College Dublin and then joined the CFO Services Group at Deloitte as an analyst, eventually becoming a senior consultant.  By the time I left six years later, I’d worked across a pretty broad range of projects in the public and private sector and knew I wanted to move into industry, so I could really get to know and progress my career in a specific sector as opposed to working across a range of sectors. I had qualified as a Chartered Accountant as well by that stage, which gave me a structured qualification I felt I could rely on in any professional environment. Why did you decide to move into the aircraft leasing sector?  I didn’t know a whole lot about the sector at that stage, to be honest, but the more I learned about it, the more it appealed to me.  The sector emerged in Ireland in the 1970s and there is now a wealth of talent in the country. There is also an increasing focus on the sector through specialised training courses like the MSc in Aviation Finance at UCD Smurfit School. A big attraction for countries dealing with aircraft leasing companies like Avolon in Ireland is that we have double tax treaties throughout the world. This gives us a big advantage over leasing companies in other countries.  For me, the highly transactional nature of the business is really appealing. There is constant momentum and movement, and when I joined Avolon in 2011, it was still in the start-up phase.  The company had only just launched the previous year, it was well capitalised and key decisions were being made here in Ireland. I knew I would have a really great opportunity to grow and develop my career.  It is a small sector, so relationships are important. It is also competitive. Ultimately, you want to win business. A lot of the aircraft we lease are similar, so how successful you are comes down to how competitive you can be and how strong your relationships with your customers are. How did your career path with Avolon progress from 2011 onwards? I started as a business analyst on the Transaction Structuring Team, which helped me to learn about the various elements of how the business operated and, from there, I moved into a sales role in Aircraft Trading, which involved selling aircraft to global investors and leasing companies. That work allowed me to travel in Asia and the US and gave me a chance to see the world, which was brilliant on both a professional and personal level.  From there, I moved to the Capital Markets Team, which funds the business, raising money from banks, public markets and other investors.  At that time, we were evolving from a bank-funded model through to funding primarily in public markets, which was an interesting journey.  I was appointed Head of Capital Markets in 2020 and then took up my current role as Chief Financial Officer in October 2022. Talk us through how Avolon has evolved since you joined the company? Today, we have $30 million of assets, 578 aircraft flying around the world and customers in 65 countries. It’s a big business with an international presence. It’s taken us a while to get here. We had 20 staff in 2011 and we were private equity backed. We listed on the New York Stock Exchange in 2014 and that was a huge event.  We were public for about a year and then we were taken private again by Bohai Leasing, a company in China, at a 55 percent premium to our listing price. Bohai had a real ambition to grow and injected more equity into the business.  In 2017, we acquired the aircraft leasing business of CIT Group, one of our competitors, for $10 billion. That deal doubled our size and catapulted us into a different realm in terms of global scale.  We’ve continued to grow the business since. Last year, we had $2.3 billion revenue and $253 million net income.  What impact did COVID-19 have on Avolon and on your role as CFO? It was a black swan event where we suddenly had a global fleet grounded across the board. At that time, I was working on the funding side of the business with $18.5 billion of outstanding debt so a lot of our investors were calling and asking what was happening.  We run stress tests on our business all the time and one of our key points is that our assets are usually transferable from a challenging market to somewhere else in the world where there is demand, but COVID-19 was a global phenomenon. Thankfully, we were in the position to leverage a strong balance sheet, investment grade credit rating and high levels of liquidity, so we could protect the business through the challenges.  When airlines started asking for deferrals on their rentals during the pandemic, we were able to support them in a lot of cases because we already had a lot of liquidity.  We started to defer some of our order book to make sure we had enough cash in the business and quantitative easing in the US allowed us to raise capital to support this. Our profitability was hit in 2020 and 2021 when some of our airline customers went bankrupt or restructured, so now the focus is on returning the business to our pre-COVID profitability. It’s going well. Air traffic is back up and the reopening of China has driven increased traffic in Asia. We are seeing rising demand for our aircraft because supply chains for manufacturers like Boeing are struggling to produce aircraft quickly enough. What next for Avolon in 2023 and beyond? We are focused on growth and driving our financial performance following the impact of COVID. The major positive is that the market backdrop is very supportive. Airline demand for aircraft and aircraft leasing has increased dramatically with rising passenger traffic.  Right now, we own a fleet of 578 planes, with a further 252 on order. We have 147 customers spread around the world and about 45 percent of our business is in Asia, with long-term demographic trends that are very supportive of aviation. India and the Middle East are also big growth regions for us.  We issued a US$750 million bond offering in May. We haven’t issued a bond since August 2021 because the markets have been quite volatile due to COVID-19, the war in Ukraine and rising interest rates.  We have lots of different funding channels and we have relied on some of our private funding channels over the last year to 18 months, but ultimately, we see the primary source of our funding as coming from public markets. Getting back into the bond market was an important milestone.  From an internal perspective we’re really focused on further enhancements to the learning and development opportunities we offer the team.  Recently we launched Accelerate, a bespoke leadership development programme for emerging leaders with a particular focus on developing our female leadership pipeline. Looking back now, do you have any regrets  about the decision to train as a Chartered Accountant? No, no regrets. The training you get as a Chartered Accountant gives you a very good grounding in terms of the quality and scope of what you can offer as a professional.  When I was working in sales and trading here at Avolon, I was able to understand how the financials would impact and, when I went on to work in capital markets, I was able to figure out angles on the deals I was working on because of my knowledge as a Chartered Accountant. The world opens up to you because there are so many career options available to you. The appeal for me with Avolon is that it is an Irish-based company with a global reach and outlook.  That creates opportunity. It’s a constantly changing environment and that is what makes it so exciting and fulfilling for me.