Burnout is a term we hear a lot of it when dealing with workplace stress and is a pressing issue for employees and students alike. Prolonged or severe workplace stress can lead to burnout. Here we discuss what burnout is and how we can deal with it to regain balance and begin to feel hopeful again. What is burnout? Burnout is a relatively new concept with the term first coined in 1974 by psychologist, Herbert Freudenberger. It is defined by the World Health Organisation (WHO) as “a syndrome conceptualised as resulting from chronic workplace stress that has not been successfully managed. It is characterised by three dimensions: feelings of energy depletion or exhaustion; increased mental distance from one’s job, or feelings of negativism or cynicism related to one's job; and reduced professional efficacy.” In 2019, burnout was recognised by the WHO as an ‘occupational phenomenon’. Feelings of burnout typically occur when you are overwhelmed at work and feel as if you can no longer keep up with the demands of the job. A 2022 large-scale study by Workhuman and Gallup found that employees in Ireland are suffering from burnout and stress more often than our European counterparts with 3 in 10 employees in Ireland reporting being burnt out very often or always. The same research found employees in Ireland are the most likely to report being stressed with 6.5 in 10 saying they experienced stress ‘a lot’ the previous day. We spend most of our waking life at work, so if we dislike it, dread going, and are extremely dissatisfied with what we are doing, it can place a serious toll on our lives. However, it is more than just the ‘Sunday Scaries’. Burnout is a gradual process and if left unaddressed can lead to many far-reaching and serious consequences. Therefore, it’s important to deal with burnout at an early stage. The burnout stages As mentioned previously, burnout isn’t a sudden onset, it develops gradually over time with symptoms and signs increasing in intensity. Research has identified that these 5 stages (outlined below) are commonly observed.   The Honeymoon Stage- this usually occurs at the start of a new job or project where productivity, optimism, energy and job satisfaction are high. Onset of Stress – like all honeymoon periods, these feelings begin to dwindle and wane. This stage is where we consciously become aware of work stressors. Chronic Stress – this stage is where we notice a marked difference in stress levels and intensity on a more frequent basis. Burnout – this is where we begin to reach our capacity limit and can longer function like we normally would. Work and its issues begin to consume you and you tend to experience serious self-doubt and symptoms become persistent. Habitual Burnout – If left untreated, burnout can become embedded into our daily lives and we experience chronic mental and physical exhaustion and adverse behavioural changes. Symptoms of Burnout These are the signs to look-out for if you think you are reaching burnout. Symptoms of burnout are wide-ranging affecting us physically, emotionally and behaviourally. Getting sick more often - Burnout can cause long-term changes to your body, weakening immunity that makes you increasingly more vulnerable to illnesses like colds and flu. Frequent headaches, muscle pain, or gastrointestinal issues – caused by prolonged stress and being in fight or flight mode constantly. Pattern and habit changes – such as sleep issues or loss of appetite. Feeling tired and drained all the time – regardless of how much rest you get. Concentration issue due to overload. Low mood – loss of motivation, having an increasingly cynical/negative outlook, feeling detachment and withdrawing from others. Feeling helpless, trapped, and defeated. Procrastinating on tasks and duties and retreating from responsibility. Skipping work, arriving late and leaving early. Coping Strategies Early intervention is key for preventing burnout and reaching the latter stages of burnout. Burnout is a risk factor for other serious diseases such as depression, heart attacks, stroke, osteoporosis, diabetes, and reduced life expectancy. The good news is we can bounce back from burnout. But what can you do to avoid reaching total burnout? Take the time off work you need to recharge and assess your situation. Speak with your manager or HR department about your workload, how and what you are struggling with – do you have a lot on your plate work-wise? Could some tasks be delegated or put on pause? Know your boundaries and limitations- poor and blurred boundaries are the main reasons people reach burnout. Often, we can say yes to too many work requests that we may not necessarily be able to take on. It requires strength but don’t be afraid to say no to certain work projects or tasks. It is important to set clear work boundaries, take regular breaks and set a work schedule to protect your health. Look after yourself- move your body, try stress management techniques, make sure you sleep and rest enough, and feed your body with nutritious foods. Check out our article, foods to manage stress. Be compassionate and patient with yourself – recovering from burnout is not a linear process. Talk to a professional to discover coping strategies that will personally work for you. How we can help The Thrive Wellbeing Hub provides free emotional supports to members, students and family members. We offer a confidential space for you to talk, whether you need a listening ear, wellbeing advice or professional counselling, we are here for you. You can contact the thrive wellbeing team by email at: thrive@charteredaccountants.ie or by phone: (+353) 86 0243294

Fostering a culture of equity, inclusion and belonging for members from minority ethnic groups is the aim of the Institute’s new Ethnicity Network Group An inclusive culture that promotes and supports diverse perspectives can stimulate innovation and improve performance for organisations in all sectors. This is according to Deborah Somorin, Manager, People Advisory Services at EY Ireland, and Chair of the recently launched Ethnicity Network Group at Chartered Accountants Ireland. The Ethnicity Network Group has been established to develop a more inclusive profession by helping organisations to foster a culture of equity, inclusion and belonging for employees from minority ethnic groups. “I always look to the research to work out value and significance and it really struck me to discover the very concrete benefits for organisations that are ethnically diverse,” Somorin explains.  “According to McKinsey, these organisations are 36 percent more likely to outperform their peers financially, because inclusive culture helps to attract and retain talent.” A voice and platform The Ethnicity Network Group will organise a programme of events, provide training and resources for organisations, and develop a mentoring programme to support members and students from Traveller, Black, Asian and other Minority Ethnic groups.  Its aim is to encourage and facilitate the discussion of issues relevant to people in these minority groups and give them the voice and platform to identify solutions.  “It’s really about expanding the conversation around diversity, to further strengthen the cultural intelligence within our profession and beyond, and to continually challenge biases in the highest and best way,” says Somorin. “If you look at the top-performing organisations in the McKinsey research, they don’t just hire for diversity, they also invest in the cultural initiatives needed to integrate people of all backgrounds and ethnicities into their organisations.  “They focus on training and mentoring, which is a really important part of creating and supporting an inclusive culture, and all of this helps to attract and retain the best talent.” Creating awareness The Ethnicity Network Group was formed in late 2022, supported by Shauna Greely, former President of Chartered Accountants Ireland and current Chair of the Institute’s Diversity and Inclusion Committee. In addition to Somorin in the role of Chair, Ethnicity Network Group members include: Vice-Chair Rutendo Chiyangwa; Khadijat Lawal; Aisling McCaffrey; Lloyd Mufema; Reabetswe Moutlana; Mwale Tembo; and Seun Olayanju. “Creating awareness is a big part of what we want to do. We are all different and it’s really about being open to learning and asking questions,” explains Khadijat Lawal. “We want to support members and students from Traveller, Black, Asian and other Minority Ethnic groups, but also to open up the conversation in the wider profession, to integrate and celebrate, because—while we are different—there are also so many similarities between us.” A Financial Accounting and Advisory Services Senior at Grant Thornton Ireland, Lawal has had different experiences at work and in education, not all of them positive. “I’m used to being in environments where I am either the only Black person, or one of the few Black people in the room. Sometimes, I have felt that I couldn’t fully be myself, that I couldn’t share parts of my culture and who I am,” she says. Lawal joined Grant Thornton in 2019 as a trainee. “One of the first things I noticed was colleagues of different ethnic minorities,” she says. “They were eating their own food and speaking their own language. That communicated to me that my difference would be welcomed here.” And Lawal noticed this commitment to true diversity and inclusion (D&I) in other areas too. “My manager at the time was always so curious about where I was from, and about my differences,” she says.  “I am from Nigeria and Yoruba is my native language. This manager looked up how to say ‘thank you’ in Yoruba for me. I found that so endearing because he didn’t have to do it.  “It just shows how much it really matters that we feel we can be curious about one another, but also kind and genuine. “The Ethnicity Network Group is about getting that message out there and helping people to have these conversations in the right way.” Positive energy Aisling McCaffrey is Director of Sustainability and Financial Services Advisory, Grant Thornton Ireland. She was invited to join the Ethnicity Network Group by Lawal, her colleague at the firm. “I was delighted to be asked. When we had our launch in December at the EY office on Harcourt Street, you could just feel this amazing, positive energy in the room,” says McCaffrey. The launch felt especially timely, because, says Caffrey, “diversity of thought really matters now. It’s a reflection of a changing dynamic in Ireland, and it’s hugely important”. Fostering a sense of belonging, and creating a supportive, inclusive culture, is essential for all employees in the modern workplace. “The way people view work, and what they want from an organisation, changed a lot during the pandemic,” says McCaffrey. “The lockdowns, social distancing and remote working gave people a lot of food for thought in terms of: ‘What do I want to do?’ What do I want from my work? What do I value?’ “People now really want to be part of an organisation that recognises them, not just in terms of what they can deliver, but also what they bring to the organisation as an individual. “We want to promote a sense of belonging and inclusion, we want to celebrate diversity—but it’s also really important that the Ethnicity Network Group can generate measurable outputs in time.  “For me, that’s where the potential for an Ethnicity Pay Gap Report comes into play, because while it’s all well and good for an organisation to say that they have an inclusive, equitable environment, we need to see that reflected in pay and leadership.” Member survey The launch of the Ethnicity Network Group in December followed a survey of over 1,300 members and students of Chartered Accountants Ireland conducted by Coyne Research. The findings revealed that, for 40 percent of members who claimed to have witnessed or heard discrimination against others, it was based on ethnicity.  Two-in-three of the students surveyed reported the same. “Changing this is really about action: ‘What can you do to bring about change?’” says McCaffrey. “People are generally self-aware and often you will find—especially in a work environment—that they are not sure how to approach questions or conversations around cultural difference. “They are concerned that they might offend someone if they say the wrong thing. So, it’s about being able to create a safe space and a learning environment that benefits everyone.  “It’s about understanding that, if someone says the wrong thing, you feel comfortable enough giving them feedback and they feel comfortable enough accepting it.” Importance of training For Somorin, the level and quality of the D&I training available to employees in any organisation is of the utmost importance. “If it is approached as a tokenistic tick box exercise, it’s going to feed into how importantly people view it,” she says.  “I’ll give you just one example of why this matters. For Irish people, where you come is a really big thing—if you’re from the Carlow clan or the Mayo clan—it is a huge part of people’s identity here. “But, if you don’t look stereotypically Irish, people will frequently ask you where you are from, and when you tell them you’re from Ireland, the next question will often be: ‘But, where are you really from? Where are your grandparents from, your great grandparents?’ “It comes from trying to place your clan, I think, and even though there is rarely any malice behind it, you do need to educate yourself as to how that can make someone feel. “When you are facing the same question over and over, it can invalidate your own sense of identity as an Irish person. It can make you feel ‘other’ or singled out.” Rules of engagement In organisations that have a truly inclusive culture, and an appropriate level of training, Somorin believes that people will organically begin to develop an awareness of the impact questions like this can have. She calls this learning the ‘rules of engagement’. “For me personally, this is a big selling point at EY. These things are made very clear even down to the performance evaluation process,” she says.  “We’re constantly encouraged to take a step back and ask ourselves, ‘if someone did or said something in a different way, but it led to the desired outcome, can we really view it as a negative?’ “Not everyone has grown up in a diverse environment and not everyone inherently understands how they should behave and what they should or shouldn’t say or ask. And it’s okay not to be perfect. What really matters is that we are all open to learning.” 

A truly diverse and inclusive workplace can boost business by promoting innovation and enhancing reputation, says Sandra Healy, founder and CEO of Inclusio Employers who treat diversity, equity and inclusion (DE&I) as a “tick box” exercise are missing a valuable opportunity to improve, not only their organisational culture, but also their ability to attract and retain talent and improve business performance and profitability. So says Sandra Healy, founder and CEO of Inclusio, the Irish tech start-up behind a first-of-its-kind platform offering a scientific, data-led approach to measuring DE&I in the workplace. Founded in 2016, Inclusio is now on the path to global growth amid plans to expand overseas and increase its Dublin headcount from 35 to 120 by 2025. The global expansion will be financed by the company’s Enterprise Ireland and VC backed €6.2 million investment. In addition to her role at the helm of Inclusio, Healy is a member of the Diversity and Inclusion Leadership Council for An Garda Síochána and a former member of the Expert Advisory Group for Ireland’s Citizens Assembly on Gender Equality. An organisational psychologist, her interest in promoting and supporting DE&I, and her inspiration for Inclusio, came about as a result of her experience working for two decades in global telecoms. “One of the values I hold dearest is fairness and I could see through my work that not everyone is treated fairly or equally at work,” Healy explains.  “That’s a problem for the individual who is not treated equitably, but it is also a problem for the organisation and, beyond that, for society as a whole.” Better outcomes  Ultimately, Healy believes that true DE&I can deliver better outcomes across the board.  “For organisations, the benefits of hiring a diverse workforce include access to a greater range of skillsets, experiences, and perspectives that reflect the reality of the society around us,” she says. “This provides a better understanding of their customers, and their customers’ needs—which improves commercial performance and boosts the bottom line.” Other benefits include greater creativity and innovation, improved talent attraction, engagement and retention, and a better reputation in the marketplace. “By intentionally creating a diverse workforce and a socially responsible organisation that takes DE&I seriously, you are opening the door to new markets, customers, business partners, and employees,” says Healy. “There are so many benefits—and you don’t have to go it alone. There are plenty of organisations providing advice and support to help employers get their approach to DE&I right, creating a better environment within the company and supporting a positive culture.” Inclusive hiring Creating an equitable hiring process is often the first step to building an inclusive work environment. There can be barriers to equitable hiring, however, sometimes including deeply held beliefs and behaviours.  “These barriers may be rooted in stereotypes, prejudice, or unconscious or implicit bias, which may lead to discriminatory beliefs and actions,” explains Healy.  “Only by identifying and understanding them, can we begin to dismantle beliefs that lead to discriminatory actions and attitudes.” The DCU Centre of Excellence for Diversity and Inclusion, founded by Healy, lists some the main barriers to equitable hiring as: 1. Stereotypes A stereotype is an oversimplified or exaggerated belief or sentiment about a group; a broad generalisation that doesn’t allow for individual differences. Stereotypes can be positive or negative and can apply to any group on the basis of race, ethnicity, age, disability, religion, gender, and other categories. 2. Prejudice Prejudice is a predetermined opinion or attitude about a group and its members. Prejudices are often negative and accompanied by a belief in an “in group” and an “out group”, the latter being the target of the prejudice. 3. Unconscious or implicit bias This is a form of prejudice or belief we are largely unaware of, which is held about members of a group. It can also be described as the positions we hold, filters we form, or conclusions we reach by means outside our active thought. Hence, unconscious or implicit biases often seem automatic. Unlike stereotypes and prejudices, these biases may not even enter our awareness, but they can drive discriminatory actions. 4. Discrimination This behaviour involves, or results in, people being treated unfairly, unequally or differently, because of their identity or the group or groups they belong to. Discrimination often starts through stereotypes, prejudices, and bias. Discriminatory behaviour can range from subtle actions to hate crimes.  Conscious steps All of these concepts work together to perpetuate inequity, so it is crucial that employers take deliberate, conscious, and considered steps to establish hiring practices that are as inclusive as possible. “As a first step, I would advise employers to evaluate and challenge the language you use in your job ads. Ask yourself, ‘what cohort am I appealing to, and who is missing?’” says Healy. She advises employers to design and develop interview processes that are inclusive, non-judgmental and respectful, creating equitable opportunity for all candidates. “All your approaches should be multidimensional—working to address biases and discrimination in all aspects of the hiring process,” she says. “Then, moving beyond the hiring process, you have to intentionally embed DE&I into the culture of your organisation and stress its importance through inclusive leadership and best practice.” As Healy sees it, culture lives “collectively” in the behaviours and lived experiences of each and every individual within an organisation.   “If you want to have a culture that is truly supportive of Diversity, Equity and Inclusion—and consistently so—you have to educate your people managers,” she says. “It should really be the case that, no matter what part of your organisation an individual works in, or who they report to, their experience is consistent with that of everyone else. Your DE&I policies and practices must be ‘lived’. “Your people managers are the custodians of that lived experience, and the culture of your organisation. They must be crystal clear about your DE&I policy and practice,” says Healy. “They must know how to have good conversations to make sure people are supported and get what they need. Ultimately, you want to focus on what every member of your workforce can do, not what they can’t do, and how they can contribute to, and enhance, your organisation.”  So, how can employers gauge whether or not they are on the right track when it comes to DE&I? “That’s one thing employers really struggle with—how do you measure culture?—and that’s where Inclusio comes in,” says Healy. “We’re bringing a ‘scientific evidenced’ approach to employers, which allows them to listen to the collective voice of their people and to measure, track and act on DE&I,” she says. About Inclusio Healy spun the idea for Inclusio into Dublin City University (DCU) in 2016 where she established and led its Centre of Excellence in Diversity and Inclusion Research. “Diversity and Inclusion is a core focus for many organisations now and the DCU Centre of Excellence was established to give them access to the very latest developments in academic research, insights and tools to drive change across organisations,” Healy explains. “I started working on Inclusio from 2016 with my two co-founders Deborah Murphy and Arthur Lubambo and support from Enterprise Ireland’s Commercialisation Fund, we spun out of DCU in 2020.” Inclusio has been developed by experts in behavioural data science, psychology, artificial intelligence, equality, diversity and inclusion. The platform gives employers real data-driven insights that will help drive DE&I improvements within their workforce and deliver measurable improvements in their culture. Healy has ambitious plans to make Inclusio Ireland’s first female-founded tech unicorn, and a global DE&I enabler that will help employers to “take the right action on DE&I and ensure that it’s not just a tick box exercise”. Participants in the company’s €6.2 million investment round, closed in 2022, include lead investor Elkstone, alongside Atlantic Bridge, Oyster Capital, Wakeup Capital, Enterprise Ireland, and a group of private backers, such as Brian Caulfield and John Hearne.  Inclusio’s clients include RSA Insurance Ireland, 123.ie, Intact FBD insurance, Linesight, Kilsaran, the Public Appointments Service, and Teagasc. “We already use global benchmarking, and we are now starting to develop sector benchmarking, initially with the insurance sector. Our customers use our data for Board and regulator reporting, Gender Pay Gap and environmental, social, and governance reporting,” Healy explains.  “That will allow employers to answer the question, ‘how am I doing compared to competitors in my own industry?’ as well as the global benchmark. “There is nothing else like Inclusio in the world. Our software is helping organisations to pinpoint and focus DE&I actions in a more strategic way, linked to business KPIs.” “That will allow employers to answer the question, ‘how am I doing compared to competitors in my own industry?’ as well as the global benchmark. “There is nothing else like Inclusio in the world. Our software is helping organisations to pinpoint and focus DE&I actions in a more strategic way.”

John Francis Dick tells Accountancy Ireland why it is so important to advocate for yourself and ask for what you need to succeed at work “Be the disruptor”. That’s the call to action from John Francis Dick, ACA, whose approach to his career has seen him seek out new opportunities at every turn. “My attitude has always been to just go for it, to take that step and to be the disruptor. You have to be willing to represent yourself in any new situation; to come in and say, ‘this is what I need, please provide it for me’.”  As John sees it, people in positions of influence—school teachers, college lecturers, and bosses and managers at work—have an enormous impact on the opportunities open to people with disabilities. “I want to get the message out there that it’s just so important to give people the time and space they need to perform at their best, to engage with them, and take the time to understand what they need to contribute in the best way they can.” John, who has cerebral palsy, grew up in south Belfast and, after completing his A Levels, went on to Queen’s University Belfast to study for a degree in land use and environmental management. “A lot of my school friends dropped out after their GCSEs. They didn’t go on to do A Levels, but I didn’t grow up seeing many people with disabilities around me, so I’ve never taken my education or career for granted,” he explains. “I was passionate about getting as much out of the educational experience as I could. Going to college was a big milestone for me. I hadn’t always been sure I’d get to do it because of my disability.” Be your own advocate It was at this time that John learned the value of speaking up, asking for what he needed, and becoming his own advocate. “It was the first time I was really on my own. I didn’t have my parents behind me and I was suddenly in a much bigger environment than I had been in at school. It was the first time I found myself having to fight for my needs and rights,” he explains. The experience taught John the importance of determination, and gave him the confidence to begin looking further afield to progress his career and education. He decided to apply for a one-year placement with Study USA, a British Council initiative, which allows third level students to spend a full academic year studying business in the US. His placement was with Monmouth, a private college in the midwestern state of Illinois. “That was really where my business education began,” he says.  “Up until that point, the only experience of accountancy I’d had was through my dad, but he just did a one-year course at Ulster University and then went into business.” John was “very open” to learning about accountancy and business, and potentially taking his studies in a new direction. “Really, I’d say my entire education and career to date has been driven by an openness to grasp opportunities, try new things and make the most of lots of different experiences,” he says. “I think this approach will take you in the right direction and, again, for people with disabilities, it comes back to that idea of being a disruptor. “It’s so important to reach out, to be seen and counted, and have access to the same experiences, opportunities and choices as people who do not have disabilities,” says John. “For the most part, people have been accepting of my difference, curious to know more about me and how they can help.  “The bigger challenge for me has been navigating the organisations and institutions that are not quite sure how best to support people with disabilities. “I feel that, in my own journey from school to college and on to work, I’ve really had to be my own trailblazer in terms of getting things done, but I’ve also seen a lot of change in those years.  “Even in terms of Chartered Accountants Ireland as an organisation, its approach to helping people with disabilities continues to improve and that’s encouraging. The Institute has agreed to my request to introduce disability awareness training for staff and I really welcome that.” Path to accountancy While he enjoyed studying for his degree in environmental management at Queen’s University, John was also aware that better career opportunities might lie elsewhere. “I remember, when I was at Monmouth, being encouraged to come up with business ideas. It was just a different way of learning and I think it really helps you when you go into the working world,” he says. “So, I came home and finished my degree, but I also took a part-time job as a book-keeper and started learning about debits and credits. My parents were a big support at that time, because they were both responsible for the accounts in their jobs.” In late 2011, the year after his graduation, John decided to apply for a training position with EY in Dublin. He was offered a six-month internship and went on to work with the firm for five-and-a-half years, qualifying as a Chartered Accountant and becoming an Audit Senior. “Joining EY was a really big step for me. It was my first full-time role and my first experience working in a Big Four environment. Starting with the six-month internship was really key for me because it meant I knew what to expect and how best to navigate my way around,” he says. Importance of managers During his years with EY and in subsequent roles in banking and industry, John has learned time and again the critical role managers can play in supporting career progression. “I remember once I had one manager who, I felt, wasn’t supporting me or interested in me as a person.  “I thought, ‘something has to change’. There were other managers I got on really well with, so I asked to switch teams. I took control of the situation. “The person I talked to about switching teams, who was also a Chartered Accountant, was an enormous help and support to me at that time. They are also someone I’ve returned to over the years to ask for advice and input.” Such support has been crucial in helping John to navigate his career path and make the right decisions.  “It just goes to show how important it is to speak up and advocate for yourself. Anyone can find themselves in a situation where their manager isn’t open to promoting them or supporting their needs and progression,” he says. “You might not have exactly what they’re looking for on the face of it, but if they’re not open to seeing your strengths, they won’t be able to see how a different approach could result in a better outcome for you and for your team.” The result of this approach to managing people is often a poor culture and a higher turnover of staff of all abilities, John says. “I wasn’t the only one on my team who was frustrated with how we were being managed, but I think I found it especially difficult. I had identified what I wasn’t able to do myself, but there was no room for genuine communication.” He continues: “These days, I am more confident about asking for that communication and understanding. I’ll give everything 110 percent. Living with a physical disability can present acute challenges, but I find solutions and I put them into practice.  “I am an advocate for the promotion of differing abilities in the workplace. I think it’s crucial that we respect and value each colleague’s abilities and I take pride in my work and in leaving things better than I found them and having a positive impact on the people around me.”

Maeve Dermody tells Accountancy Ireland about her experiences in the workplace as a person who is profoundly Deaf For Maeve Dermody, ACA, a truly inclusive workplace is one that supports open communication, diversity and allyship. Dermody, who qualified as a Chartered Accountant in 2018 and now works for Revenue, has had varied experiences in the working world—some positive, and some negative.  Above all, she has learned the true value of open communication, a willingness to embrace difference, and the strengths and benefits it can bring to the working world.  “My biggest advice to employers would be to focus always on a person’s abilities, not their disabilities,” Dermody says. “I am Deaf, but I have strong communication skills. I am very good at writing reports and communicate very effectively this way. I am a team player and I always want to contribute, to discuss my work, and find out about other people’s work.” Dermody joined Revenue five years ago as an Executive Officer and was promoted to Administrative Officer in 2019. “I have been given a lot of space here to learn, develop and grow in my career,” she says. “Not all jobs are positive, and I think this has really shown me the enormous value of providing the right supports for people with disabilities and creating the right culture of communication.” The right support Dermody has the full support of her line manager at Revenue and is provided with an Irish Sign Language (ISL) interpreter at all team meetings. “This means I’m able to converse, interact and engage. The conversation flows naturally because I can express myself. Without an ISL interpreter, it would be challenging in a group environment to engage effectively,” she says.  “I can lip read in one-to-one meetings, but, in a group setting, it is much more difficult because I am trying to keep track of everything around me.” This practical support also helps to foster a sense of inclusion and allows Dermody’s colleagues to benefit from the full scope of her skills and expertise as a Chartered Accountant.  “I haven’t always had a positive experience at work. A few years ago, I worked with a small firm in private practice, and I found it very challenging,” she says. “At team meetings with colleagues, there was no interpreter present, so I found it hard to understand the messages my colleagues were communicating.  “We would be sitting together around a table and people beside me would be chatting and looking at their notes, so I wasn’t able to lip read.  “I was the only Deaf person and felt I couldn’t make the role work for me, because of the lack of support in the environment. “With Revenue, my experience has been completely different and so—to all employers—I would say, ‘be an ally, listen and work together with the individual, because everyone has different needs’.  “My husband is Deaf too, but his level of hearing is different which means he can use the phone, whereas I can’t, but we have the same preference to have an ISL interpreter at meetings.  “At the same time, another person who has the same level of hearing as me might prefer to use captions. Different people have different preferences, needs and accommodations and that is why it is so important to talk, to ask questions, to listen and respond to the individual.”  Maeve’s story Dermody grew up on a farm in Mullinalaghta, Co. Longford, with four older brothers. “One of my brothers has a hearing loss and I am profoundly Deaf, so we have both had very different experiences. I went to a Deaf school and he went to a mainstream school. “I grew up seeing him progressing a few years ahead of me—going to college and getting a job. I thought, ‘I’m going to grow up and I’ll do the same because he’s been able to do it’.” At first, Dermody set her sights on becoming a primary school teacher. “I went to a Deaf school in Dublin and I knew that St Patrick’s College offered a teacher training course in Deaf education. That’s what I wanted to do,” she says. Dermody discovered, however, that she couldn’t apply for a place on the course because the Deaf school she had attended had not taught Irish as a subject at either primary or secondary level.  This meant she did not have Irish as a Leaving Certificate subject—a requirement for primary teaching in Ireland. “I didn’t have the option of doing my primary teacher training in Ireland. I could have gone over to the UK, but I didn’t want to do that. I wanted to study here and be close to family and friends,” she says. Instead, she decided on a different career path; one that would allow her to use her strength in maths and interest in business to become a post-primary teacher. College life Dermody embarked on a degree in accountancy and finance at Dublin City University (DCU) in 2008 followed, three years later, by a professional diploma in education and a master’s in education. She is a qualified secondary school teacher, specialising in accounting and business studies.  Dermody’s college experience was positive, but it was also a new and unfamiliar environment. “When you’re in a Deaf school, it’s a bit like being in a bubble. You know all the teachers and everyone uses sign language. We had very small classes of just two to six pupils,” she says. She was the only pupil in her class to do the Leaving Certificate. “I had always wanted to go on to third level, meet people and socialise,” she explains.  “College is very new and different though when you’re coming from a Deaf school. You can feel a bit lost, but I was determined to roll up my sleeves and integrate.” As well as forming close bonds with her collegemates at DCU, and forging lifelong friendships, Dermody made use of the supports offered to Deaf students, including ISL interpreters and note-takers for college lectures. “I started to teach and I enjoyed it, but found myself wanting more from my working life. I’ve always been a problem-solver, so I started thinking instead about pursuing a career in accountancy,” she says. Dermody’s next port-of-call was AHEAD, the independent non-profit organisation working to create inclusive environments in education and employment for people with disabilities. “AHEAD is a really good organisation and they provide a lot of support in the workplace, both to the person with a disability and to the employer,” she says. Through AHEAD’s Willing Able Mentoring (WAM) programme for graduates with disabilities, Dermody secured two paid work internships with ESB and the Civil Service. “I started applying for jobs when I completed my internships, but I wasn’t having much luck. I decided that I needed more qualifications under my belt, so I started studying to become a Chartered Accountant,” she says. “As an organisation, Chartered Accountants Ireland was every bit as supportive as DCU, organising ISL interpreters and anything else I needed. “It was only when I started applying for jobs, both after graduating from DCU and completing my CA training, that I started to feel different. I could see my peers, who had similar grades but no disability, getting jobs. I wasn’t getting those same opportunities.” Path to experience To gain the experience she needed, Dermody took a part-time paid position with Reach Deaf Services. “That was a good start for me, and I was able to apply for other jobs while I worked there.” Eventually, Dermody was offered a fixed-term accountancy position and, from there, she joined St. Joseph’s School for Deaf Boys in Dublin as an accounts administrator. “I also started working as an administrative accountant with Deaf Village Ireland and the Sign Language Interpreting Service. I was working three different jobs, all fixed-term, but I wanted more security.” That was when Dermody decided to apply for work with the Civil Service and was offered her first position with Revenue. Government supports Even though her experience of working in the public sector has been overwhelmingly positive, Dermody would like to see greater emphasis at Government level on the provision of practical work-related supports for people with disabilities in Ireland. “I think the Irish government should look to the UK model of providing supports for people with disabilities. The Access to Work scheme there provides people with a disability with funding at an individual level, to help support them in the workplace,” she says. “This means the employer doesn’t have to be concerned about the cost of providing this support. The person with a disability receives the funding and the employer then confirms that the funding has been used.” On the other side of the coin, Ireland is better than the UK in terms of access for people with disabilities in social spaces.  “I would also like to see Irish Sign Language (ISL) included in the school curriculum in Ireland. ISL is one of our three official languages, yet it is not taught in our schools,” says Dermody. “If Irish Sign Language were on the curriculum alongside Irish and English, it would help to give people a basic understanding of sign language. That would make it easier to converse with Deaf people, even just through simple, everyday expressions like ‘please’ and ‘thank you’.”

Tony Ward tells us about his experiences starting his career as a Chartered Accountant and adapting to a new working reality after he began to lose his sight in his twenties I had a very ‘ordinary’ early life growing up in Monaghan. I was of a generation where it wasn’t so commonplace to go to college, but I was always reasonably academic and chose to study commerce at UCD.  I had no particular focus on going on to do accountancy, but I guess the subjects I studied were already oriented towards accountancy and business.  Looking back now, almost 40 years later, I don’t know whether I was lucky or smart, but choosing to become a Chartered Accountant turned out to be a great decision from a career perspective. I’ve never had any sense that I went in the wrong direction. I began my career in contract with a smaller firm—now long gone after many mergers over the years.  Like all trainees, I started at the bottom and found working at a smaller firm to be of great practical help. I qualified as an Audit Senior in 1989, moved to Deloitte for two years and, from there, went into a management role in practice. It was around 1990 that I became aware that things I used to be able to do fairly easily were becoming more difficult. I was losing my sight, but it wasn’t until 1994 that I was diagnosed with Retinitis Pigmentosa, a genetic condition that causes sight to degenerate over time. Those four years without a diagnosis were the most difficult for me, both personally and professionally.  I was desperately trying to survive in the sighted world and many things became more difficult, and eventually impossible.  It may sound strange to say it now, but it wasn’t obvious to me at the time exactly what was going on.  I think the human response when faced with all kinds of challenges is often to try to survive in the moment.  It’s perhaps only afterwards that we realise what was actually going on. My diagnosis in 1994 came as a huge relief. It’s hard to believe in 2022, but back then losing my sight meant that I basically had to stop working.  Computers and adaptive technology were in their infancy, and I just couldn’t read any more.  At that point, I embarked on a new career pathway—less direct than most in the profession.  Technology began to improve and one of the most important decisions I made was to learn to touch type.  Around that time, I and others were gradually starting to realise that, just because I couldn’t see didn’t mean I didn’t have the skills to do a lot of the jobs sighted accountants could do—think clearly, solve problems, and be part of a team.  Definitely then, and even now, people can be too easily judged at face value. Unfortunately, this means that your most easily identifiable, defining characteristics—in my case, my sight loss—can be a real disadvantage.  At that time, many doors were closed—both to me, and on me. Fortunately though, there were enough open doors, even then, to allow me to pursue a rewarding, constructive and worthwhile career. Here, I have to mention Access Support Services at Chartered Accountants Ireland. I was extremely reluctant to engage with the service at the outset. I thought, “what can they really do apart from sympathise with me?” But, for whatever reason, I decided to reach out, initially to Derek Snow and then Oliver O’Brien. Oliver (who only recently retired from the Institute) was a huge support. He encouraged and facilitated me to go to Institute events and introduced me to others. For that, I am extremely grateful.  I think the biggest challenge people with disabilities face is often other people’s perceptions and attitudes.  This is much improved nowadays with genuine engagement on equality, diversity and inclusion and a much more diverse society than 30 years ago. Challenges remain, however, including preconceptions of what blindness means and assumptions about what you can and can’t do.  There are also the very practical challenges involved in everyday tasks—reading hard copy documents, shopping, transport, participating in sport, traveling, the basics of working full-time, and walking into things if I’m not careful!  I suppose one way for a sighted person to understand my experience would be to close your eyes and try to go about your daily life. That said, technology and a multitude of very considerate family members, friends and colleagues have all made this easier for me.  So, while everything starts from a position of potentially being difficult, good planning and decent workarounds make it all much more possible.  Nowadays, I enjoy a very fulfilling work life, and numerous work- and career-related interests, but getting to this point was neither easy nor inevitable. In my experience over the years, very few employers actively start from a position of discrimination—but we all know, through training and education, that bias is ever-present, including unconscious bias.  The phrase I use to describe how this works is, “the making of assumptions”. We all make incorrect assumptions all the time based on sub-optimal information or flawed perceptions.  So, while the world of employment has improved greatly over the years, much more remains to be done to ensure that we are truly fair and unbiased. People with disabilities and other differences deserve a fair crack at fulfilling their expectations of obtaining and retaining work.  We wouldn’t like to be discriminated against, so we should not put ourselves at risk of discriminating against others. My advice to employers here is to be fair and equitable. Don’t make assumptions about employees or candidates who have disabilities and get professional advice if you need it.  There are organisations like AHEAD (ahead.ie) working to create inclusive environments in education and employment for graduates with disabilities, and many other sources of excellent information about people with specific disabilities that will give any employer the resources they need.  The essential ingredient here is that the employer is genuinely open to all of this and has the right attitude. Without this, it doesn’t matter how many resources you have—­­it will be inadequate. It was one small private company I worked with 20 years ago that gave me my first breakthrough in obtaining employment in an open competition.  I am very good friends with the Director to this day. When I asked him why he gave me the job, he said I was the best candidate. He knew I would be able to do the work as a person with a visual impairment because, he said, “I figured you would figure it out and that it was really none of my business!” That was worth more than anything to me and I flourished in that role for six years. It just shows how much attitude matters. The details can always be figured out, unless the person hiring you really believes your disability is an issue—then, it won’t work. I had a similar experience with The Wheel where I was Director of Finance from 2016 to 2022. They were a bit apprehensive about hiring me, simply because they didn’t know what they didn’t know. In other words, they didn’t know how I would interact with the normal volume of information any Director of Finance would be expected to handle—but, if I can put it this way, they took the risk. By risk, I don’t mean me as a person or professional. What I mean is that they were comfortable not fully knowing or understanding what they didn’t yet know or understand. If you look at equality for people with disabilities in the wider working world and in society as a whole, the bottom line for me is that, if we are treated fairly and equitably, then we have the same likelihood of benefiting from opportunities in life as everyone else.  As it stands, unemployment rates among people with disabilities are much higher than in the general population. There may be genuine reasons for some of this disparity, but definitely not all of it—and employment opportunities really matter because there are so many benefits that go along with them. I am talking about active engagement, social interaction, economic benefit, and the power to make decisions about where and how you live, and what you do.  So, to the extent that people with disabilities might need some extra support or flexibility in the work environment, the benefits for these people, for employers, and for society as a whole far outweigh any efforts, costs or flexibility required. If it is done the right way with the right support from the Government and from employers, we will all reap the rewards.